Ever wonder what role white people should people play in fighting against racism? The legendary feminist scholar and racial justice activist Peggy McIntosh has some ideas. Maybe you have also wondered, “why does it always feel like white people avoid the topic of race?” To answer this question, we bring on the philosopher Alison Bailey to discuss a phenomenon known as “white talk.” Join us on a journey through whiteness in the United States in which we explore a Crayola crayon factory, police stations in Massachusetts, and Donald Trump claiming to be “the least racist person you will ever meet.”

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Show Notes:

Introduction

Peggy McIntosh

Alison Bailey

Thanks to Evelyn Brosius for our logo. Music used in this episode (in order of appearance):

    1. Badlands” by Cory Gray
      From the Free Music Archive
      CC BY-NC 3.0
    2. WTS” by Cory Gray
      From the Free Music Archive
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    3. Floating in Space” by Podington Bear
      From the Free Music Archive
      CC BY-NC 3.0
    4. Dark Matter” by Podington Bear
      From the Free Music Archive
      CC BY-NC 3.0
    5. Caravan” by Podington Bear
      From the Free Music Archive
      CC BY-NC 3.0
    6. Dark Water” by Podington Bear
      From the Free Music Archive
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    7. Hard Won” by Podington Bear
      From the Free Music Archive
      CC BY-NC 3.0
    8. Tell the Future” by Cory Gray
      From the Free Music Archive
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This episode was updated on 1/29/16 to include an additional 2.5 minutes of audio from the interview with Peggy McIntosh. 

 

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